well the truck class would be something crazy in it self- perhaps they can not model it... A viper- or an old Trans am type- my question is can the image or shape of a known car be used, if you have the TEAM's permission or do you also need the manufacturer? see with race trucks there are 2 basic shapes and 1 wierd team designed Buggyra style (now running 'frieghtliner' bodies.
so the team can offer theri whole 'old' package as the new one is so different, and perhaps this can be used to create the 2 basic shapes... other wise aren't the Devs bound to what a manufacturer says.
the Sauber shape was free to use per Suaber, and the BMW engine well it isn't really but the BF1 uses Suaber Data so and they have use of BMW logos and such...
so can we call up RuSport or Forsythe and get Lola data and Cosworth XFE data? or would we need to talk to Lola, and Cosworth? fo a champcar let say.
or can we call up Penske and get a NASCAR type car using their data (a generic shape here is easy. and a silhoutte type racer dosn't need anyone's aproval- unless we badge it...?)
so what would I need to kno here any ideas?

I would have no problem communicating with any one attemting to make a deal, exposure exposure of course Scavier Solutions (all three i guess) would have to give me the go ahead. and What power would i have to give a liscence and software package to any one so that they can test it?

Lots needs to be decided before I can make the deal..

i like the psuedo-daytona 24 hours configureation you can see in you pic..
most of the oval with the infield loop with 2 hairpins thrown in- that would be a fun high speed layout..

you know if LFS worked a deal with Sauber BMW how hard would it be to make a deal with any team?

We want V8's? or SuperTrucks, contact Buggyra.com for super truck data, and permission those guys would love it, use the last model Buggyra Racing Special (not the current frieghtliner variety) I am sure that data won't devulge secrets, and call up a V8 star team or a Trans am team to get that data and shapes and sponsor decals and Viola!

I think the LFS team underestimates how useful their programming is to a team looking for more data, on the cheap... It is so much a sim...If ony they had one real track...well I want Supertrucks first.

awesome audi-
any chance of the red and yellow?
or the velox version?

Glad you like it- i found i like 2 days beore and i have never raced better- with crispness and steady frame rates you do drive better=smoother and lap times have dropped-good drivers make a good driver

i have wlked away from the ATi drivers because of there inconsistant behaivior for now.
I a have tried NGO (ngohq.com) they have ATi drivers and Nvidia (and this stuff is magic! for LFS) a crispness you have never seen before. NGO ATi optimized driver v 1.6.4

my other apps run great too. LFS, GTL, GPL, Heat, N2K3, more detail than before and such...
i recommend much

really the damage modelling is well done, graphically it shows you buggered up and the suspension and tyres do take a wallop.
so bumpers and doors don't come off at this time, the damage model in good games likie GPL and GTL and other don't do as well.
lights break, and bumpers fall, but the severity is never addressed as in LFS, a car gets proper rooted in a big shunt, and other games you suddenly stop working...?
LFS is ground breaking in its approach, if we had GTL cars and LFS physics and damging (along with some parts falling off as GTL) i think this migth be worse than heroin. I wold play LFS on a good server until i die of starvation, or i run out of money to pay electric bills.
LFS is really that good- people complain but the idea is NOT to wreck, or crash, race clean and every car should cross the finish line ok, if there is bumper deformation or wheels askew due to Offs or impacts, well that'll show, but remember damage is a bonus, to how it behaves which it does well in spades, but why worry about something you shouldn't do.?
illepall

"how is this an improvement"
well i thought the improvment suggestion was in the post...that is we have an in to get Saubers (as the car shape could only have come from their oK) so why not get an exclusive sauber liscence and get the group C car?

or if the deal is with intel then go full bash and any one with intel sponsorship can easy get that 'real' car into LFS- i say improve the Intel connection or if it is suaber improve and exploit these links..

of course one is arcadey and LFS is the sim, my complaint is the lack of loyalty to one company which i suppose is old time romanticism-really exposure is equal to dollars so expose yourself every where

So Intel is the broker to get the SaubersBMW in Rfactor with Villenueve and Hiedfeld.... WTH
what dos this mean for LFS?? a superior Simulator of car physics to any comers, graphically i like it, it is crisp and well done, and no fluff. (GT legends is something special though...)
anyway an improvment now that the Online sim fight is being tossed around by intel's and Suaber's nosing into everything, can't LFS show for a better product and garner some more goodies... or Shock! get Sauber liscence for past versions or Sauber's.....Mercedes Sauber Group C?! anyone- without or with the official Mercedes, we get an LMP close top right.

or any other sauber cars...official liveried (suaber ferrari= real ferrari~)

LFS without the tracks options, should get the Sauber Green to get some more real cars now, this is an insult that the BMW f1 shows up in a rival game, thy soiled the relationship! cheating on LFS for another !

Play the Card devs and get the official Sauber GroupC car it is an easy in and they have insult or inSlutted us all loyal to LFS!

while i love the XRR, and the FXR (the fxr being easy to drive through the corners more than any and throttle early) it is unbelievable that the FZR after 3 laps bests the other 2 cars by2-3 seconds without my trying. (i was lapping and comparing) the XRR can be tremendously fast, and it is a great car to drive, perhaps it needs a little boost in peak power? or light ness?
the 4wd GTR is superb but again- how can it match or near a lap time to the FZR? should the FZR retain the same width tyres of the FZ50 or is that too handicapping? or should the other GT's get more power (they are turbo after all)
the torque and power curves in the FZR are heaven though- it can pull you out of any wring gear in a bad corner and you can still make up for it. hmmm

What are the times when you hotlap?
+12, +35.70?
what does the plus mean- the position in WR charts or top times?

Slow?
these things go 0-160KPH in under 9 seconds...remember the FIA Racetruck class and supertrucks run around 1200 HP and 2000-3000 nm torque , they get to the top speed very fast, most tracks are shortened sprint verisons (except Lausitz and Jarama i think) with the weight and the brick (UF1000 aero) i think these can be slotted in very well. the drafting would cheat the speed limiter a bit, if it is attached to gearing rather than a speed sensor signal after many truckers get penalties for Exceeding the 160KPH limit which i can imagine is only done by slipstreaming. of course Formula Truck in Brasil has similar set up, but they run unrestricted a s far as i now so they can be much faster, but the have a single turbo rule to cut back on power, and weights vary per engine size- form the 9 litre Mercedes to the 14 litre Scania. quite a variety. the racing however is close and furious on both continents, and this could e great in LFS, as fun as BF1 is, the UF1 races are always closer and more whiteknuckle, as in the open wheel classes people get spread out much more, as mistakes are more costly than in touringcars, or Trucks
Bring on the SuperTucks bring Os Camionhes
bring on Camiones,

what i meant by same pattern and different color and same pattern you can see in this picture. Formula super truck in Brasil, (from formulatruck.com)
same skin pattern differnt colors for a different driver

i have been lapping at night for you Rappa
i have been gettin gon around 7 pm or so...
Supertrucks rule!
CoreServers, Eagle, or MCpolice if the server is up.
Apexspeed is another good one, and VSK rental servers is goo too.
i;ll be there mostly (i know six choices but they are th ebest since patch T)

I put this in another thread too, but I crashed (crash to restart)while hotlapping at West Internat. lap 3 in the FOX.

no overclocking and i have 4 fans,

Iwas hotlapping Westin in my FOX, and it crashed to restart (lap3)
everything was good, but WTH???
patch T3, and i was online with other players without fault..so far

i run full, but not maximized graphics, 1024,
P4 3.4, Ati 9800 w/256Mb, 1GB ram.. 4 fans and not overclocked (no need to yet)

illepall

the LX8 shoul come in a GTR form though, no pedestrian mansypansy stuff.
kinda like the Donkevoort V8 that lapped Nurburgring inlike 6 minutes or something crazy, with the front and rear wings..
of course this opens the door for LMP's (Panoz LMP 1 anyone?) or Courage

we are waiting, and it s a no brainer.
Drag racers howerever are a different story aren't they?

Does anyone havea clue what i am looking for in LFS? hint Big Diesel Turbo, very fast (to 160kmh! ha ha FIA pooo! two stage [FIA and none] speed limiter for these please in the set ups for gearing please!)

oh the sweetness, and MBTR is great fun- but it is not LFS, which is why we need trucks in LFS

when new player join or get on track the trouble has been Ba,, stutter or a pause, semi lock and then whammo back on timing - wird it was never so bad in Q

nice skins- btw where do you put the LOGOALPHA files? and do they over write the original and how many manufacturers can you have.?

they are nice and all digital real like- but the old style wasn't broken so why fix it?

TYRES? does changing the tyre Brand affect the grip or endurance? as this option is in Set up I noticed if I went from Chromo, to michellin, to chromo black, the set up needed to be changed...
tyre wars anyone?
what gives here?

this was an issue i had afer sorting out my unlock status- why do i need to see the goofy arms? I have mine i don't want the driver there. i like the gauges and a nice tight screen...

BIg improvement really, the double apex last corner in KY GP, anyone try it?
there is where you notice the tyres doing what they should- that said... KY oval is still flat and 0 degree wings for the OW cars...the drafting is much better- but it is harder to cacth it, as the effect seems less so.